Monday, October 24, 2011

Occupy Las Vegas decides to skip protesting Obama fundraiser

Today, President Obama visited Las Vegas for, among other things, a fundraiser at the Bellagio.

Part of Occupy Las Vegas' mission statement reads:
We want an end to corporate money's influence in politics, whether through campaign donations, PACs, or other groups. Money is not speech.

We want truly effective campaign finance reform, so that corporations and other interests have no overwhelming advantage over the rest of us in any part of American politics.
For a group that claims to be interested in getting money out of politics, a protest outside of a luxury hotel where the President of the United States is holding a fundraiser would be a no-brainer, right?

Yes, and at one point, Occupy Las Vegas was planning to hold a rally, as OLV-forum-user hamnose wrote:
The RVJ on Saturday says Obama will be here Tuesday. I haven't seen any news concerning this since then. I notice that all the messages related to this event have disappeared from the OccupyLasVegas website. Has this been cancelled? Or has Obama cancelled his visit?
But cancel they did, because they're too busy ... or something.

From OLV-forum-user Breadman:
I wanted to help with a protest with the obama event but there's just too much to be done setting up the new occupation site. That mixed with the uncertainty about where he was supposed to actually be really threw a wrench in the works. You can be sure I'll be at the next political rally to remind people about our mission. Dems, Repubs, they're both crap at the moment. We won't miss the next few regardless of party.
From OLV-forum user Tyrion:
At tonight's GA [General Assembly] there were a few reasons mentioned not to do this. The visit was happening too quickly for us to create a coherent response, and there were some concerns about the secret service. There was some disagreement here; some will be protesting the visit anyways, which is fine.
One user, MIZZTAZZ [caps in the original], blamed the lack of protesting on Obama's secret travel schedule:
I finally discovered the VERY general location (east side of Vegas) that he'll be in tomorrow. The area is being blocked off so no one can determine the exact route he'll be taking. We discussed planning for future events and being ready to go with 10-12 hours notice (approx. what we'd have for tomorrow) for his next visit.
Never mind that the Review-Journal noted Friday that Obama was having a "midday fundraiser at the Bellagio," and Jon Ralston literally posted the invitation to Obama's fundraiser early yesterday afternoon, Occupy Las Vegas claims they just couldn't figure out where the president would be. If only they had known, I'm sure they would have been out there protesting him just as vigorously as they protested at the Republican debate.

Right ... and if you believe that I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Since the Occupy Las Vegas group has stopped posting their General Assembly meeting videos on their livestream page, there's no way to verify why Occupy Las Vegas called off the Obama protest, but there are some dots here begging to be connected.

Less than two weeks ago, I exposed how union organizers are "behind" Occupy Las Vegas.

A key part of that article quoted union organizers using their influence (and promise to turnout union members to OLV events) to steer protesters away from protesting a Democratic event. They registered no objections, however, to protesting the Republican presidential debate.

Since union organizers guided Occupy Las Vegas protesters away from one Democratic event, it's likely they would do it again to try and avoid any negative publicity for the president they've heavily support with campaign contributions.

If Occupy Las Vegas was serious about protesting big money in politics, they would have protested the president's fundraiser as vigorously as they protested the Republican debate last week. Instead, Occupy Las Vegas is being influenced and/or guided by the very union groups that put the most money into politics.

If Occupy Las Vegas was living up to its own mission statement, they would be protesting unions for being among the largest campaign contributors in the country. Instead, Occupy Las Vegas is relying on union organizers to boost their numbers at rallies — assuming, of course, those rallies are to the liking of those unions.

8 comments:

Kristal Glass said...

Victor,
Posting an article without taking the time to interview the source...is this really your type of journalism? I'm one of the team leaders for the Events/Action Team at OLV and you know my information is readily available on the OLV website. Please contact me and let's have a frank and honest discussion about this movement.

Regards,
Kristal Glass
MIZZTAZZ

jjimbo53 said...

What a crock!! Union members in our group are there as individuals and not as union leaders! Our group welcomes all people and is non-partisan! Tea party people, Ron Paul supporters, republicans, gay and lesbians, union members or any other individuals that want to show up are all welcome, just not to represent any group! So you sure have your information very wrong!!
Jim Walsh
one of many organizers
occupylasvegas

Victor Joecks said...

Hi Kristal,

Thanks for writing.

First, this is a piece of commentary (and while, we hold high standards for accuracy here at NPRI -- note all the links to sources), there is a substantial difference between commentary and a news story.

I'm sure you noticed a large portion of my commentary was simply sharing what OLV members had written. I also noticed you didn't actually dispute anything I've written.

That being said, I'd be happy to call and talk with you. (I didn't know your phone number was available, but I did find it just now.) Fair warning: I'm likely to use parts of our conversation in future blog posts.

Thanks and have a great day.

Victor

Victor Joecks said...

Hi Jim,

Here's what members of Occupy Las Vegas have said about union involvement (full article here - http://www.npri.org/publications/union-power-organizers-behind-occupy-las-vegas):

Sebring Frehner: "I need you guys to understand just how many thousands of Nevadans we have literally waiting at our doorstep. I've been fielding calls all day long. The AFL-CIO, one of the biggest unions in the U.S., is behind us, 110 percent. We've got the Culinary behind us. And in Nevada, the Culinary is one of the strongest unions still. They are behind us. They are literally knocking at our door, waiting for us to finish tripping over ourselves, so they can help us. We ...

-Laughter-

"I'm not joking, this is the truth. Like, I've been stalling all these different unions. I mean, if you understand how big some of these unions are, you'll real quickly begin to understand what we need is a plan. Once that goes down, we have a set plan — we have a time, we have a date, we have a place. People will be there. Resources will materialize out of nowhere.

"We have the Las Vegas Dealer union. Every dealer you see in a casino that's in a union is in that union. They are behind us.

"I'm literally getting cards thrown at me every 10 minutes for the last week straight, going, "Once you guys figure out what you're doing, call me." We will help you. Whatever it is you need, we are behind you. Just figure out what you're doing."

Man talking to Anthony Rogers with the Bricklayers Union: "You guys can organize yourselves if you have information from us that we're doing something?"

Rogers: "Yeah."

Also, the Boilermakers from local 92 just donated toilets to Occupy Las Vegas: http://occupylasvegas.org/topics/rented-chemical-toilets

As you can see (and there's more in that first article), unions are heavily involved in Occupy Las Vegas.

Victor

Kristal Glass said...

Enough with the pulling quotes and posts. I specifically didn't dispute anything you posted because I'm tired of seeing your commentary online with no inquiry into clarification on the issue. It's time to meet face to face with OLV rather than hide behind your keyboard from the safety of the NPRI office or your home. I've stuck my neck out there fighting for what I believe in...will you?

Kristal Glass

Dan said...

Face it Kristal, your group is just a bunch of thugs, anachists, sponges off society, spoiled college students, media attention whores etc. Maybe 1% are quote unquote normal people who actually work, pay taxes and give a crap about this country.
And this article clearly shpws that your Occupy crap is just a Democratic/liberal political message. Too bad your Occupy movement has been an epic failue, though.

Kristal Glass said...

@Dan ~ Well then, I'm part of the 1% of the 99% then because I have a career and do care about our country. Quite honestly, I was teetering on being part of the "1%" before the market crash and I've nearly lost it all, not because I didn't plan appropriately, save money, or invest wisely but because Wall St. and the big banks were gambling with my future behind my back. The American public was sold a "dream" and when those of us who did everything right still end up struggling to pay the water bill or keep the power turned on, well there is something just very wrong with that.

You do not know me but anyone who does will tell you I'm neither a thug, nor an anarchist, or a media whore, and I certainly don't sponge off society. But I do have a loud voice and I'm a strong, intelligent, self-supporting person who believes that making a little less money in order to see my family, friends and neighbors rise above poverty is better for society as a whole. In the end, we'll be a better country and all the richer for helping our fellow man.

Unfortunately, you'll probably find a way to turn my comments on me and declare that you earned your money and you're not giving any of it to the "sponges of society". I understand how you feel because at one time I thought just like you do. Fortunately for me, I opened my mind to the bigger picture and I'll now fight for the rest of my life for those who struggle with words or the strength to battle bullies who only care about themselves.

Kristal

Boyd said...

"self-supporting person who believes that making a little less money in order to see my family, friends and neighbors rise above poverty is better for society as a whole. In the end, we'll be a better country and all the richer for helping our fellow man."

That's a noble sentiment. I couldn't agree more, you should feel free to do as you wish with your money. The problems arise when you take this from how you wish to run your life to how you claim authority to run mine. Put another way, do you plan to allow me to keep enough to support my family, friends and neighbors after you confiscate my wealth to support yours? Do you really think you have some God given right to do this?